is anyone familiar with the gilead instructors:.
liverance, bowen, noumair, and karl adams.
Has Raymond said anything about Karl in any of his books?
Karl Adams and Lyman Swingle are alluded to in almost every page of Crisis of Conscience, since they were overseers of the Writing Department in the 70's. Essentially, both of them shared the same concerns of R. Franz and E. Dunlap about WT doctrines but decided to stay "on the sunny sidewalk".
i was wondering if you noticed the society cutting costs.. for example : the books are now printed on cheaper paper and have a soft cover.
also subscriptions are no longer mailed by post but will be brought to you by publishers (cutting cost and upping field service!
to flies in one!).
It was made to appear that US is the only place where mags are still mailed to homes.
This is probably true. In Argentina they stopped mailing subscriptions about 10 years ago. I don't remember what the excuse was back then.
is anyone familiar with the gilead instructors:.
liverance, bowen, noumair, and karl adams.
Is anyone familiar with [...] Karl Adams.
Yes, Raymond Franz.
it appears that alot of people on this board believe in evolution (either by that name or by another) as the explanation for the origins of life.
to those people i would sincerely ask the following:.
1. where did plants come from?.
AlanF and JanH will do a much better job of answering your questions with greater detail.
I think AlanF and JanH have learnt (at last!) to ignore this kind of posts. Sometimes you best show your intelligence by not replying.
i'm rather long-winded, as well pretentious sounding, but i had to break this tale into two parts in order to tell it....people would get bored otherwise.
(sorry for the blatent rip-off, amazing).
for those of you who don't know, i'm a raised jw, yet not born into it.
I was on private reproof once too but they didn't stop me from going out in service. You were lucky
LOL! I was on reproof too, twice actually (the second one came as a surprise because I was expecting swift disfellowshipment). I also had to go out in service; actually, they expected me to be active in service as a "proof" that I was really repented. During the second judicial hearing they told me they hadn't lifted the restrictions yet because I wasn't doing enough, though I was putting in like 15 hours a month, despite being busy attending college and everything. THAT was the red flag for me, that made me see how little concern they had for other people's feelings. I never went out to service again, became irregular soon afterwards and eventually faded away. On the rare ocasions that I see one of these elders in the streets I can notice that "we-should-have-DF-you-when-we-could" expression in their eyes that I find very funny.
witnesses are often told that is is not necessary to look to outside sources such as bible encyclopedias and commentaries because the society's writing department already has these and presents us with the best comments from them for us anyway.
what i have noticed though, is that there are many comments from 19th century commentators and not much in the way of quotes from modern-day bible scholars and their works.. i understand that at the recent kingdom ministry school it was said that the society has the best bible scholars available for our instuction.
if that was said (can anyone confirm?
there are many comments from 19th century commentators and not much in the way of quotes from modern-day Bible scholars and their works.
Of course not, for two reasons:
1. The WTS appointed itself as God's exclusive channel of Biblical interpretation, so it'd be contradictory if they considered other sources as authoritative. The boys in writing might contradict themselves in other respects, but they will never grant any authority whatsoever to modern mainstream scholars.
2. Virtually no one today, except the most fundamentalists exegets (which I wouldn't call scholars) believe such things as: literallity of most accounts in Genesis, book of Daniel not being written during the Macabean period, the four gospels being based on first-hand accounts, miracles, Revelation as a profetic book, etc, etc, etc.
Witnesses have no idea what modern biblical studies are about. They are the perfect example of the sad combination of arrogance and ignorance.
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beans.
I'm a postdoc in Math.
i got this in an email today...it was a forward from a sister.
she doesnt talk to me, but sends 'uplifting' emails.
i guess i'm not good enough to talk to, but only to upbuild!
2. We can be desensitized by what we see and hear, thinking it isn't bad, i.e., x-mas songs.
Maybe he heard "I saw daddy fucking Santa Claus", the adult's version of "I saw mommy kissing Santa Claus".
ive been visiting this site for about 8 months, just taking in all your comments and the issues that are of importance to those who have been jehovahs witnesses and the problems that you have identified with the religion.
i was brought up in the truth in the 60s and 70s but my parents left before i reached the age when i would consider being baptised.
subsequently my parents divorced but have remarried separately and are both back in the religion.
Querido Pablo,
you will want to hear this if you have any interest in the Bible, it will blow your mind,
This is the point where I stopped reading your post, honey. Don't you Protestants ever get tired of trying to square the circle? Spawning sect within sect within sect ad infinitum? Aren't there enough Protestant churches and Biblical interpretations already? Why can't you just choose one and stay there?
Never debunk anything until you have looked at it all,
ROTFLMAO The phrase "Biblical interpretation" in your post was a self-debunker, darling.
the Catholics took the bible away from the eyes of the congregation
The Catholics were onto something, judging from people like you.
~ More pro-catholic than ever,
Josef Joachim
------------------- when the fecal matter hits the fan!
the book of malachi is addressed to the priests of israel after the time of judgment when the babylonians destroyed the nation.
but, in reality, the prophecy applies to the anointed priests of the christian era who are similarly in a legally binding covenant relationship with jehovah god.
Such a thing is truly detestable in Jehovah’s eyes and it is absolute treachery on the part of those anointed ones in positions of responsibility to compromise the organization in that way and bring community guilt upon all of Jehovah’s Witnesses.
Now, how can you say that and call us apostates? Go show this post to one of the elders in your congregation and see if they won't call you an apostate.
BTW, you're outdoing the Writing Department in contradicting yourself in every sentence you write. If Jeho-bah rejected the churches of Christendom as you say, why would he not reject the WTS as well instead of refining it?
